{"id":45689,"date":"2001-06-07T22:06:09","date_gmt":"2001-06-07T22:06:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/queme.org\/?p=45689"},"modified":"2026-09-18T09:19:10","modified_gmt":"2026-09-18T09:19:10","slug":"phong-van-db-olivier-dupuis-ve-cuoc-toa-khang-o-saigon","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/queme.org\/vi\/phong-van-db-olivier-dupuis-ve-cuoc-toa-khang-o-saigon\/","title":{"rendered":"Ph\u1ecfng v\u1ea5n D\u00e2n bi\u1ec3u Qu\u1ed1c h\u1ed9i \u00c2u ch\u00e2u, Olivier Dupuis, v\u1ec1 cu\u1ed9c t\u1ecda kh\u00e1ng t\u1ea1i Thanh Minh Thi\u1ec1n vi\u1ec7n \u1edf Saigon h\u00f4m 6.6.2001"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Paris, 7.6.2001 (PTTPGQT) &#8211; <em>V\u1eeba bu\u1edbc xu\u1ed1ng phi tr\u01b0\u1eddng Frankfurt (\u0110\u1ee9c) theo chuy\u1ebfn bay t\u1eeb Bangkok tr\u1edf l\u1ea1i B\u1ec9, anh Olivier Dupuis, D\u00e2n bi\u1ec3u Qu\u1ed1c h\u1ed9i \u00c2u ch\u00e2u, T\u1ed5ng b\u00ed th\u01b0 \u0110\u1ea3ng C\u1ea5p ti\u1ebfn Li\u00ean Qu\u1ed1c gia, li\u1ec1n g\u1ecdi \u0111i\u1ec7n tho\u1ea1i v\u1ec1 Paris b\u00e1o tin cho Ph\u00f2ng Th\u00f4ng tin Ph\u1eadt gi\u00e1o Qu\u1ed1c t\u1ebf v\u1ec1 chuy\u1ebfn \u0111i Vi\u1ec7t Nam v\u00e0 cu\u1ed9c t\u1ecda kh\u00e1ng (sit-in) t\u1ea1i Thanh Minh Thi\u1ec1n vi\u1ec7n ng\u00e0y 6.6.01. Nh\u00e2n d\u1ecbp n\u00e0y, ch\u1ecb \u1ef6 Lan \u0111\u00e3 l\u00e0m ngay cu\u1ed9c ph\u1ecfng v\u1ea5n ch\u1edbp nho\u00e1ng b\u1eb1ng ti\u1ebfng Ph\u00e1p. Ph\u00f2ng Th\u00f4ng tin Ph\u1eadt gi\u00e1o Qu\u1ed1c t\u1ebf xin d\u1ecbch ra Vi\u1ec7t ng\u1eef sau \u0111\u00e2y \u0111\u1ec3 c\u1ed1ng hi\u1ebfn s\u1ef1 ch\u1edd \u0111\u1ee3i tin t\u1ee9c c\u1ee7a ng\u01b0\u1eddi Vi\u1ec7t trong v\u00e0 ngo\u00e0i n\u01b0\u1edbc :<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u1ef6\nLan<\/strong><strong> :<\/strong>&nbsp; <strong><em>Xin anh k\u1ec3 cho nghe chuy\u1ebfn \u0111i\ntr\u1ea7n sanh c\u1ee7a anh t\u1ea1i Vi\u1ec7t Nam. L\u00fac \u0111\u1ebfn phi tr\u01b0\u1eddng v\u00e0 l\u00fac v\u1ec1 kh\u00e1ch s\u1ea1n ?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>D\u00e2n bi\u1ec3u Olivier Dupuis:<\/strong>\u00a0 M\u1ecdi s\u1ef1 x\u1ea9y ra b\u00ecnh th\u01b0\u1eddng, v\u1edbi nh\u1ecbp \u0111\u1ed9 qu\u00e1 quan ch\u1eadm ch\u1ea1p \u0111\u1ed1i v\u1edbi ch\u00fang t\u00f4i c\u0169ng nh\u01b0 \u0111\u1ed1i v\u1edbi m\u1ecdi ng\u01b0\u1eddi kh\u00e1c. Kh\u00e1 ch\u1eadm ch\u1ea1p, ph\u1ea3i m\u1ea5t m\u1ed9t gi\u1edd \u0111\u1ed3ng h\u1ed3 m\u1edbi ra kh\u1ecfi phi tru\u1eddng sau nh\u1eefng th\u1ec3 th\u1ee9c nh\u1eadp c\u1ea3nh. Sau \u0111\u1ea5y ch\u00fang t\u00f4i \u0111\u1ed5i ti\u1ec1n, l\u1ea5y ta xi, Martin Schulthes (ng\u01b0\u1eddi ph\u1ee5 t\u00e1 c\u1ee7a t\u00f4i) v\u00e0 t\u00f4i lu\u00f4n \u0111i ri\u00eang nh\u01b0 hai ng\u01b0\u1eddi l\u1ea1 \u0111\u1ec3 tr\u00e1nh s\u1ef1 nghi ng\u1edd. Ch\u00fang t\u00f4i v\u1ec1 kh\u00e1ch s\u1ea1n d\u1ecdc theo m\u1ed9t d\u00f2ng s\u00f4ng. M\u1ed7i ng\u01b0\u1eddi \u0111i \u0111\u01b0\u1eddng ri\u00eang, ch\u00fang t\u00f4i ra ph\u1ed1 d\u1ea1o. Nh\u1ecbp \u0111\u1ed9 v\u00e0 s\u1ef1 r\u1ea7m r\u1ed9 c\u1ee7a c\u00e1c lo\u1ea1i xe moto g\u00e2y \u1ea5n t\u01b0\u1ee3ng m\u1ea1nh trong t\u00f4i. T\u00f4i c\u1ef1c k\u1ef3 b\u1ea5t ng\u1edd tr\u01b0\u1edbc m\u1ed9t th\u00e0nh ph\u1ed1, Saigon, cho ta th\u1ea5y s\u1ee9c s\u1ed1ng m\u00e3nh li\u1ec7t. C\u0169ng th\u1ebf, kh\u00ed h\u1eadu r\u1ea5t n\u00f3ng n\u1ef1c. \u0110\u1ea5y l\u00e0 nh\u1eefng c\u1ea3m gi\u00e1c trong ng\u00e0y th\u1ee9 nh\u1ea5t. T\u00f4i ph\u1ea3i c\u00f4ng nh\u1eadn nh\u1eefng k\u1ebb qua \u0111\u01b0\u1eddng kh\u00e1 t\u01b0\u01a1i c\u01b0\u1eddi tr\u00ean \u0111\u01b0\u1eddng ph\u1ed1.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u1ef6 Lan :&nbsp; <\/strong><em><strong>Ngh\u0129a l\u00e0 \u1ea5n t\u01b0\u1ee3ng \u0111\u1ea7u ti\u00ean kh\u00f4ng b\u1eaft nh\u1eadn \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c kh\u00f4ng kh\u00ed s\u1eb7c m\u00f9i c\u00f4ng an ho\u1eb7c k\u1ec1m ch\u1ebf ho\u1eb7c \u0111\u00e0n \u00e1p trong th\u00e0nh ph\u1ed1 ?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Olivier\nDupuis<\/strong><strong>&nbsp;:&nbsp; <\/strong>Kh\u00f4ng, kh\u00f4ng c\u1ea3m th\u1ea5y \u0111i\u1ec1u \u0111\u00f3 tr\u00ean \u0111\u01b0\u1eddng\nph\u1ed1&nbsp; &#8211; hi\u1ec3n nhi\u00ean chuy\u1ec7n kh\u00e1 t\u01b0\u01a1ng \u0111\u1ed1i,\nv\u00ec t\u00f4i hi\u1ec7n di\u1ec7n r\u1ea5t ng\u1eafn ng\u1ee7i \u1edf Saigon &#8211;&nbsp;\nkh\u00f4ng kh\u00ed tr\u00ean c\u00e1c n\u1ebbo \u0111\u01b0\u1eddng kh\u00f4ng nh\u01b0 th\u1ebf, h\u1ea7u nh\u01b0 t\u1eadp trung gi\u1eefa th\u00e0nh\nph\u1ed1 l\u00e0 s\u1ef1 chen s\u1ed1ng, nh\u1eefng ho\u1ea1t \u0111\u1ed9ng kinh t\u1ebf, cho ta c\u1ea3m gi\u00e1c m\u1ed9t s\u1ef1 s\u00f4i \u0111\u1ed9ng.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u1ef6\nLan<\/strong> <strong>:&nbsp; <em>Anh \u0111\u1ebfn Saigon v\u00e0o h\u00f4m 5.6, anh c\u00f3 \u0111\u1ebfn th\u0103m ngay Thanh Minh Thi\u1ec1n vi\u1ec7n\nkh\u00f4ng&nbsp;?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Olivier\nDupuis<\/strong><strong>&nbsp;:&nbsp; <\/strong>Kh\u00f4ng, kh\u00f4ng, kh\u00f4ng. \u0110\u1ec3 th\u1ef1c hi\u1ec7n k\u1ebf ho\u1ea1ch c\u1ee7a\nch\u00fang ta, ch\u00fang t\u00f4i \u0111\u00e3 quy\u1ebft \u0111\u1ecbnh kh\u00f4ng \u0111\u1ebfn n\u01a1i \u1ea5y m\u00e0 t\u00f4i ngh\u0129 r\u1eb1ng ch\u00fang ta \u0111\u00e3\nc\u00f3 l\u00fd. Con \u0111\u01b0\u1eddng n\u00e0y (Tr\u1ea7n Huy Li\u1ec7u) \u0111\u1ea7y xe c\u1ed9 l\u1ea1i nh\u1ecf, kh\u00f4ng nh\u01b0 c\u00e1c \u0111\u1ea1i l\u1ed9\nl\u1edbn \u1edf Saigon. N\u01a1i \u0111\u00e2y c\u00f3 nhi\u1ec1u qu\u00e1n r\u01b0\u1ee3u v\u00e0 nhi\u1ec1u c\u00f4ng an, nh\u01b0ng \u0111\u00e2y l\u00e0 \u0111i\u1ec1u\nt\u00f4i kh\u00e1m ph\u00e1 ra h\u00f4m sau. Martin Schulthes \u0111\u1ebfn m\u1ed9t ng\u00f4i ch\u00f9a kh\u00e1c c\u00f3 kho\u1ea3ng c\u00e1ch\nt\u01b0\u01a1ng t\u1ef1 v\u1edbi trung t\u00e2m th\u00e0nh ph\u1ed1 \u0111\u1ec3 \u01b0\u1edbc l\u01b0\u1ee3ng th\u1eddi gian \u0111i \u0111\u1ebfn Thanh Minh. \u0110\u00e2y\nl\u00e0 c\u00e1ch ti\u1ec7n l\u1ee3i \u0111\u1ec3 bi\u1ebft vi\u1ec7c ph\u1ea3i th\u1ef1c hi\u1ec7n v\u00e0 c\u0169ng l\u00e0 chuy\u1ec7n ch\u00fang t\u00f4i l\u00e0m\nng\u00e0y \u0111\u1ea7u ti\u00ean.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u1ef6\nLan<\/strong> <strong>:<em>&nbsp;\nB\u00e2y gi\u1edd ch\u00fang ta b\u01b0\u1edbc qua c\u00e1i ng\u00e0y s\u00f4i n\u1ed5i. Xin anh cho bi\u1ebft nh\u1eefng g\u00ec \u0111\u00e3\nx\u1ea9y ra s\u00e1ng ng\u00e0y 6.6 t\u1ea1i Thanh Minh Thi\u1ec1n vi\u1ec7n&nbsp;?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Olivier\nDupuis<\/strong><strong>&nbsp;:&nbsp; <\/strong>Th\u1eadt kinh ng\u1ea1c. Theo k\u1ebf ho\u1ea1ch ph\u1ea3i \u0111\u1ebfn s\u1edbm v\u1edbi\n\u00fd \u0111\u1ecbnh g\u1eb7p cho \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c H\u00f2a th\u01b0\u1ee3ng Qu\u1ea3ng \u0110\u1ed9 nh\u01b0 \u0111\u00e3 \u01b0\u1edbc \u0111\u1ecbnh. Th\u1ebf l\u00e0 v\u00e0o l\u00fac 8 gi\u1edd\ns\u00e1ng t\u00f4i \u0111\u1ebfn ch\u00f9a. Chu\u1ea9n b\u1ecb s\u1eb5n s\u1ed1 ti\u1ec1n tr\u1ea3 xe \u00f4m \u0111\u1ec3 kh\u1ecfi m\u1ea5t th\u00ec gi\u1edd v\u00f4 \u00edch,\nn\u00ean khi xe \u00f4m d\u1eebng l\u1ea1i, t\u00f4i li\u1ec1n b\u01b0\u1edbc v\u1ed9i, kh\u00f4ng v\u1ed9i l\u1eafm, nh\u01b0ng \u0111oan quy\u1ebft b\u01b0\u1edbc\nnhanh v\u00e0o c\u1ed5ng ch\u00f9a. R\u1ea5t may m\u1eafn, khi v\u00e0o trong ch\u00f9a th\u1ea5y ngay thang g\u00e1c, t\u00f4i\nc\u1ed5i gi\u00e0y&nbsp; &#8211; \u0111i\u1ec1u l\u00e0m m\u1ea5t \u0111i m\u1ed9t v\u00e0i gi\u00e2y\n&#8211;&nbsp; v\u00e0 t\u00f4i g\u1eb7p m\u1ed9t nh\u00e0 s\u01b0 \u1edf c\u1ea7u thang.\nLi\u1ec1n t\u1ee9c kh\u1eafc 2 t\u00ean c\u00f4ng an \u0111u\u1ed5i theo sau l\u01b0ng. Th\u1ebf l\u00e0 b\u1eaft \u0111\u1ea7u t\u1eeb gi\u00e2y ph\u00fat \u1ea5y,\nhai t\u00ean c\u00f4ng an \u0111eo s\u00e1t t\u00f4i c\u00f9ng v\u1ecb s\u01b0 gi\u00e0 m\u00e0 d\u01b0\u1eddng nh\u01b0 \u00f4ng bu\u1ed9c l\u00f2ng ph\u1ea3i c\u00f3\nm\u1eb7t. L\u00fac \u1ea5y, t\u00f4i c\u1ed1 \u00fd ch\u1ea7n ch\u1edd. V\u00ec kh\u00f4ng th\u1ec3 leo l\u00ean t\u1ea7ng ba, t\u00f4i \u0111\u00e0nh \u0111\u1ee9ng \u1edf\nt\u1ea7ng hai c\u0169ng l\u00e0 t\u1ea7ng ch\u00e1nh \u0111i\u1ec7n c\u00f3 t\u01b0\u1ee3ng Ph\u1eadt&#8230; Kh\u00f4ng c\u00e1ch g\u00ec mon men \u0111\u1ebfn c\u00e1c\nph\u01b0\u01a1ng tr\u01b0\u1ee3ng c\u1ee7a ch\u01b0 T\u0103ng, t\u00f4i b\u1ecb k\u1eb9t c\u1ee9ng \u1edf \u0111\u1ea5y. \u00dd ngh\u0129\nlo\u00e9 nhanh trong \u0111\u1ea7u t\u00f4i l\u00e0 h\u00e3y ng\u1ed3i thi\u1ec1n \u0111\u1ec3 tr\u00ec ho\u00e3n th\u1eddi gian xem c\u00f3 g\u00ec thay\n\u0111\u1ed5i trong nh\u1eefng ph\u00fat, nh\u1eefng gi\u1edd sau ch\u0103ng, ho\u1eb7c c\u00e1ch xa th\u00eam b\u1ecdn c\u00f4ng an, ho\u1eb7c\nmong ch\u00fang b\u1ecf \u0111i. Nh\u01b0ng \u0111i\u1ec1u \u1ea5y ch\u1eb3ng bao gi\u1edd x\u1ea9y ra. Sau \u0111\u00f3 nh\u1edd \u0111\u1ecdc m\u1ed9t t\u1ea5m\nb\u1ea3ng t\u00f4i m\u1edbi bi\u1ebft t\u00f4i \u0111\u00e3 ng\u1ed3i nh\u01b0 th\u1ebf cho t\u1edbi 11 gi\u1edd tr\u01b0a. Ch\u00f9a m\u1edf c\u1eeda m\u1ecdi ng\u00e0y\nl\u00fac 8 gi\u1edd s\u00e1ng, \u0111\u00f3ng c\u1eeda 11 gi\u1edd tr\u01b0a, r\u1ed3i m\u1edf l\u1ea1i t\u1eeb 2 gi\u1edd chi\u1ec1u cho \u0111\u1ebfn 6 gi\u1edd\nt\u1ed1i. L\u00fac 11 gi\u1edd tr\u01b0a c\u00f4ng an \u0111\u1ebfn \u00abm\u1eddi\u00bb t\u00f4i ra kh\u1ecfi ch\u00f9a. H\u1eafn m\u1eb7c th\u01b0\u1eddng ph\u1ee5c,\nnh\u01b0ng c\u00e1ch \u0111i\u1ec7u cho th\u1ea5y kh\u00f4ng ph\u1ea3i l\u00e0 nh\u00e0 s\u01b0 hay ng\u01b0\u1eddi tri s\u1ef1 c\u1ee7a nh\u00e0 ch\u00f9a, m\u00e0\nl\u00e0 m\u1ed9t k\u1ebb c\u00f3 nhi\u1ec7m v\u1ee5 canh g\u00e1c \u00abtr\u1eadt t\u1ef1 c\u00f4ng c\u1ed9ng\u00bb n\u01a1i n\u00e0y, tr\u1eadt t\u1ef1 c\u00f4ng c\u1ed9ng\ntrong d\u1ea5u nh\u00e1y.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u1ef6 Lan<\/strong> <strong>:<em>&nbsp; Ngo\u00e0i hai ng\u01b0\u1eddi \u1ea5y, anh c\u00f3 th\u1ea5y\nnh\u1eefng ng\u01b0\u1eddi kh\u00e1c m\u00e0 anh nghi l\u00e0 c\u00f4ng an&nbsp;?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Olivier Dupuis&nbsp;:&nbsp; <\/strong>Khi t\u00f4i ra kh\u1ecfi ch\u00f9a v\u00e0 khi tr\u1edf l\u1ea1i l\u1ea7n th\u1ee9 hai, t\u00f4i c\u00f3 c\u1ea3m t\u01b0\u1edfng r\u1ea5t\nr\u00f5 l\u00e0 7, 8 c\u00f4ng an ng\u1ed3i t\u00fac tr\u1ef1c. Trong s\u00e2n tru\u1edbc ch\u00f9a c\u00f3 7, 8 ng\u01b0\u1eddi m\u00e0 t\u00f4i\nngh\u0129 \u0111ang l\u00e0m c\u00f9ng nhi\u1ec7m v\u1ee5. B\u1ecdn h\u1ecd c\u00f9ng chung m\u1ed9t nh\u00f3m v\u1edbi nhi\u1ec7m v\u1ee5 gi\u1eef \u00abtr\u1eadt\nt\u1ef1 c\u00f4ng c\u1ed9ng\u00bb trong ch\u00f9a, tr\u1eadt t\u1ef1 c\u00f4ng c\u1ed9ng trong d\u1ea5u nh\u00e1y.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u1ef6 Lan<\/strong> <strong>:<em>&nbsp; Kh\u00f4ng ai m\u1eb7c qu\u00e2n ph\u1ee5c&#8230;<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Olivier Dupuis&nbsp;:&nbsp; <\/strong>Ch\u1eb3ng th\u1ea5y ai m\u1eb7c qu\u00e2n ph\u1ee5c trong s\u00e2n ch\u00f9a. Tr\u00e1i l\u1ea1i, ph\u00eda b\u00ean kia\n\u0111\u01b0\u1eddng, 2, 3 c\u00f4ng an m\u1eb7c qu\u00e2n ph\u1ee5c \u0111i \u0111i l\u1ea1i l\u1ea1i tr\u01b0\u1edbc ch\u00f9a, kho\u1ea3ng c\u00e1ch ch\u1eebng\n50 th\u01b0\u1edbc. \u0110\u00f3 l\u00e0 \u0111i\u1ec1u t\u00f4i nh\u1eadn ra khi ch\u00fang t\u00f4i b\u1ecb b\u1eaft, l\u00fac \u1ea5y c\u00f2n c\u00f3 nhi\u1ec1u c\u00f4ng\nan m\u1eb7c th\u01b0\u1eddng ph\u1ee5c b\u00ean kia \u0111\u01b0\u1eddng n\u1eefa.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u1ef6 Lan<\/strong> <strong>:<em>&nbsp; Th\u1ebf l\u00e0 v\u00e0o l\u00fac 11 gi\u1edd tr\u01b0a anh\nra kh\u1ecfi ch\u00f9a. Anh c\u00f3 c\u1ea3m t\u01b0\u1edfng ch\u0103ng l\u00e0 c\u00f4ng an \u0111\u1ee3i anh \u1edf Thanh Minh Thi\u1ec1n\nvi\u1ec7n, h\u1ecd bi\u1ebft l\u00e0 s\u1ebd c\u00f3 ng\u01b0\u1eddi l\u1ea1 t\u1edbi&nbsp;?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Olivier Dupuis&nbsp;:&nbsp; <\/strong>H\u00ecnh dung l\u1ea1i, t\u00f4i c\u00f3 c\u1ea3m t\u01b0\u1edfng nh\u01b0 th\u1ebf. B\u1ecdn h\u1ecd r\u1ea5t canh ch\u1eebng, c\u00e1ch m\u00e0\nh\u1ecd v\u1ed3 ch\u1ee5p t\u00f4i khi t\u00f4i v\u00e0o ch\u00f9a l\u00fac 8 gi\u1edd s\u00e1ng, ch\u1ee9ng t\u1ecf b\u1ecdn h\u1ecd \u0111ang ch\u1edd \u0111\u1ee3i\nm\u1ed9t c\u00e1i g\u00ec \u0111\u00f3. M\u1ed9t ng\u01b0\u1eddi T\u00e2y ph\u01b0\u01a1ng n\u01a1i m\u1ed9t ng\u00f4i ch\u00f9a kh\u00f4ng \u1edf trung t\u00e2m th\u00e0nh\nph\u1ed1, kh\u00f4ng nhi\u1ec1u ng\u01b0\u1eddi ng\u1ecdai qu\u1ed1c qua l\u1ea1i, l\u00e0 \u0111i\u1ec1u kh\u00e1 l\u1ed9 li\u1ec5u. Ch\u00f9a \u1edf v\u00f9ng b\u00ecnh\nd\u00e2n, ch\u1ec9 c\u00f3 ng\u01b0\u1eddi Vi\u1ec7t Nam. \u0110\u00f3 \u0111\u00e3 l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t y\u1ebfu t\u1ed1. Nh\u01b0ng ngo\u00e0i l\u1ebd \u0111\u00f3, c\u1ea3m gi\u00e1c\nm\u1ea1nh m\u1ebd t\u00f4i c\u1ea3m nh\u1eadn, l\u00e0 qu\u00e2n s\u1ed1 \u0111\u00e3 gia t\u0103ng \u0111\u1ec3 \u0111\u1ed1i ph\u00f3 ng\u00e0y 7.6 m\u00e0 H\u00f2a th\u01b0\u1ee3ng\nQu\u1ea3ng \u0110\u1ed9 d\u1ef1 t\u00ednh ra Qu\u1ea3ng Ng\u00e3i ru\u1edbc \u0110\u1ea1i l\u00e3o Huy\u1ec1n Quang v\u1ec1 Saigon. Ch\u1eafc ch\u1eafn l\u00e0\nki\u1ec3m s\u00f3at ch\u1eb7t ch\u1ebd h\u01a1n tr\u01b0\u1edbc&nbsp; &#8211; \u0111i\u1ec1u t\u00f4i\nc\u00f3 th\u1ec3 h\u00ecnh dung &#8211;&nbsp; v\u00e0 t\u00f4i ngh\u0129 l\u1ef1c l\u01b0\u1ee3ng\nb\u1ed1 tr\u00ed \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c t\u0103ng c\u01b0\u1eddng v\u1edbi s\u1ef1 ch\u00fa t\u00e2m, c\u1ea3nh gi\u00e1c c\u1ee7a c\u00e1c b\u1ed9 ph\u1eadn \u00abgi\u1eef g\u00ecn tr\u1eadt\nt\u1ef1\u00bb, tr\u1eadt t\u1ef1 trong d\u1ea5u nh\u00e1y.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u1ef6 Lan&nbsp;:&nbsp; <em>V\u00e2ng, anh r\u1eddi ch\u00f9a l\u00fac 11 gi\u1edd s\u00e1ng, v\u00e0 nh\u01b0 anh \u0111\u00e3 \u0111i\u1ec7n tho\u1ea1i sang anh\nV\u00f5 V\u0103n \u00c1i cho bi\u1ebft cu\u1ed9c t\u1ecda kh\u00e1ng bu\u1ed5i chi\u1ec1u v\u1edbi t\u1ea5m bi\u1ec3n y\u00eau s\u00e1ch. Xin anh k\u1ec3\nr\u00f5 chuy\u1ec7n n\u00e0y v\u00e0 nh\u1eefng chi \u0111\u00e3 x\u1ea9y ra&nbsp;?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Olivier Dupuis :\u00a0 <\/strong>T\u00f4i \u0111\u00e3 g\u1eb7p kh\u00f3 kh\u0103n trong 3 gi\u1edd \u0111\u1ed3ng h\u1ed3 m\u00e0 t\u00f4i b\u1ecb b\u00f3 bu\u1ed9c ph\u1ea3i ng\u1ed3i \u0111\u00f3 \u0111\u1ec3 suy ngh\u0129 t\u00ecm ph\u01b0\u01a1ng th\u1ee9c kh\u00e1c. M\u1ecdi c\u00e1nh c\u1eeda \u0111\u1ec1u \u0111\u00f3ng k\u00edn, ch\u1eb3ng c\u00e1ch chi g\u1eb7p \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c H\u00f2a th\u01b0\u1ee3ng Qu\u1ea3ng \u0110\u1ed9. Khi v\u1ec1 l\u1ea1i kh\u00e1ch s\u1ea1n, t\u00f4i b\u00e0n v\u1edbi ng\u01b0\u1eddi ph\u1ee5 t\u00e1, anh Martin Schulthes. Sau \u0111\u00f3 ch\u00fang t\u00f4i quy\u1ebft \u0111\u1ecbnh \u0111i\u1ec7n tho\u1ea1i sang Paris h\u1ecfi \u00fd ki\u1ebfn anh V\u00f5 V\u0103n \u00c1i v\u00e0 ch\u1ecb. C\u0169ng b\u1edfi v\u00ec m\u1ecdi y\u00eau c\u1ea7u \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c g\u1eb7p H\u00f2a th\u01b0\u1ee3ng \u0111\u1ec1u v\u00f4 v\u1ecdng, ch\u00fang t\u00f4i quy\u1ebft \u0111\u1ecbnh l\u00e0m m\u1ed9t h\u00e0nh \u0111\u1ed9ng g\u00ec \u0111\u1ec3 ch\u1ee9ng t\u1ecf l\u00e0 ch\u00fang t\u00f4i \u0111ang n\u1eafm v\u1eefng t\u00ecnh h\u00ecnh t\u1ea1i ch\u1ed7, ch\u00fang t\u00f4i kh\u00f4ng b\u1ecb ho\u00e0n c\u1ea3nh \u0111\u00e1nh l\u1eeba, v\u00e0 r\u1eb1ng H\u00f2a th\u01b0\u1ee3ng Qu\u1ea3ng \u0110\u1ed9 th\u1ef1c s\u1ef1 b\u1ecb giam h\u00e3m. D\u1ea5u hi\u1ec7u n\u00e0y ch\u1ee9ng t\u1ecf m\u1ed9t ch\u00ednh s\u00e1ch b\u1ea5t bao dung \u0111\u1ed1i v\u1edbi c\u00e1c t\u00edn ng\u01b0\u1ee1ng, c\u00e1c t\u00f4n gi\u00e1o, ch\u1ee9 kh\u00f4ng ch\u1ec9 l\u00e0 c\u1ea5m \u0111o\u00e1n t\u1ef1 do h\u1ed9i h\u1ecdp, t\u1ef1 do ng\u00f4n lu\u1eadn, t\u1ef1 do t\u01b0 tu\u1edfng. Cu\u1ed9c th\u1ea3o lu\u1eadn v\u1edbi anh V\u00f5 V\u0103n \u00c1i v\u00e0 ch\u1ecb, qua \u0111i\u1ec7n th\u1ecdai, \u0111\u01b0a ch\u00fang t\u00f4i \u0111\u1ebfn quy\u1ebft \u0111\u1ecbnh ph\u1ea3i c\u00f3 m\u1ed9t c\u1eed ch\u1ec9 t\u00e1c \u0111\u1ed9ng. Hi\u1ec3n nhi\u00ean c\u1eed ch\u1ec9 lo\u00e9 l\u00ean trong \u0111\u1ea7u c\u1ee7a nh\u1eefng ng\u01b0\u1eddi \u0111\u1ea5u tranh ch\u00ednh tr\u1ecb, l\u00e0 vi\u1ebft l\u00ean tr\u00ean gi\u1ea5y, tr\u00ean m\u1ed9t t\u1ea5m bi\u1ec3n \u0111\u1ec3 \u00edt nh\u1ea5t m\u1ed9t s\u1ed1 ng\u01b0\u1eddi \u0111\u1ecdc \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c l\u00fd do m\u00e0 ch\u00fang t\u00f4i \u0111\u1ebfn Vi\u1ec7t Nam, l\u00fd do y\u00eau s\u00e1ch. \u0110i\u1ec1u n\u00e0y d\u1eabn \u0111\u1ebfn nh\u1eefng kh\u1ea9u hi\u1ec7u r\u1ea5t \u0111\u01a1n gi\u1ea3n : <strong>Tr\u1ea3 t\u1ef1 do cho H\u00f2a th\u01b0\u1ee3ng Th\u00edch Huy\u1ec1n Quang \u2013 Tr\u1ea3 t\u1ef1 do cho H\u00f2a th\u01b0\u1ee3ng Th\u00edch Qu\u1ea3ng \u0110\u1ed9 \u2013 T\u1ef1 do T\u00f4n gi\u00e1o cho Vi\u1ec7t Nam. <\/strong>H\u1eb3n nhi\u00ean \u0111\u00e2y m\u1edbi ch\u1ec9 l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t kh\u00eda c\u1ea1nh c\u1ee7a c\u00e1c nan \u0111\u1ec1 Vi\u1ec7t Nam ng\u00e0y nay, nh\u01b0ng l\u00e0 nan \u0111\u1ec1 \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c c\u1ea3m nh\u1eadn s\u00e2u s\u1eafc \u0111ang h\u1ed9i t\u1ee5 nhi\u1ec1u ng\u01b0\u1eddi c\u00f3 th\u1ec3 l\u00e0 nh\u1eefng ng\u01b0\u1eddi quy\u1ebft t\u00e2m nh\u1ea5t tr\u00ean n\u1ed9i \u0111\u1ecba Vi\u1ec7t Nam. T\u00f4i ngh\u0129 r\u1eb1ng \u201c<strong>L\u1eddi k\u00eau g\u1ecdi cho D\u00e2n ch\u1ee7 Vi\u1ec7t Nam\u201d <\/strong>v\u1edbi \u201c<strong>S\u00e1ch l\u01b0\u1ee3c 8 \u0111i\u1ec3m\u201d<\/strong> v\u1ed1n \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c r\u1ea5t \u0111\u00f4ng ng\u01b0\u1eddi Vi\u1ec7t h\u1eadu thu\u1eabn c\u00f9ng m\u1ed9t s\u1ed1 l\u1edbn c\u00e1c nh\u00e2n v\u1eadt qu\u1ed1c t\u1ebf, l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t minh ch\u1ee9ng. Minh ch\u1ee9ng r\u1eb1ng ngo\u00e0i v\u1ea5n \u0111\u1ec1 t\u1ef1 do t\u00f4n gi\u00e1o, trong s\u1ed1 c\u00e1c T\u0103ng s\u0129, c\u00e1c tu s\u0129, c\u00e1c nh\u00e0 t\u00f4n gi\u00e1o, c\u00f3 nh\u1eefng ng\u01b0\u1eddi gi\u00e1 tr\u1ecb, nh\u01b0 H\u00f2a th\u01b0\u1ee3ng Qu\u1ea3ng \u0110\u1ed9, ch\u00e2n nh\u1eadn t\u00ecnh tr\u1ea1ng kh\u00f4ng th\u1ec3 ti\u1ebfp di\u1ec5n \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c n\u1eefa. V\u00e0 r\u1eb1ng d\u00e2n ch\u1ee7 ph\u1ea3i \u0111\u01b0a l\u00ean ngh\u1ecb tr\u00ecnh m\u1ed9t c\u00e1ch quy\u1ebft li\u1ec7t (ngay c\u1ed9ng \u0111\u1ed3ng qu\u1ed1c t\u1ebf c\u0169ng ph\u1ea3i tham d\u1ef1), l\u00e0 \u0111i\u1ec1u ch\u01b0a h\u1ec1 x\u1ea9y ra cho t\u1edbi h\u00f4m nay.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u1ef6 Lan :&nbsp; <em>V\u00e0 anh \u0111\u00e3 quy\u1ebft \u0111\u1ecbnh t\u1ecda kh\u00e1ng t\u1ea1i Thanh Minh Thi\u1ec1n vi\u1ec7n v\u1edbi nh\u1eefng t\u1ea5m\nbi\u1ec3n \u1ea5y ?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Olivier Dupuis :\u00a0 <\/strong>V\u1edbi \u00fd \u0111\u1ecbnh tr\u1edf l\u1ea1i Thanh Minh Thi\u1ec1n vi\u1ec7n v\u00e0 ch\u00ednh th\u1ee9c y\u00eau c\u1ea7u \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c g\u1eb7p H\u00f2a th\u01b0\u1ee3ng Qu\u1ea3ng \u0110\u1ed9&#8230; T\u00f4i \u0111\u00e3 l\u00e0m nh\u01b0 th\u1ebf. Tr\u1edf l\u1ea1i ch\u00f9a l\u00fac 4 gi\u1edd chi\u1ec1u, t\u00f4i h\u1ecfi th\u1eb3ng m\u1ed9t c\u00f4ng an cho t\u00f4i g\u1eb7p H\u00f2a th\u01b0\u1ee3ng. H\u1ecd \u0111ang t\u1ee5 t\u1eadp kho\u1ea3ng 8. 9 ng\u01b0\u1eddi m\u1eb7c th\u01b0\u1eddng ph\u1ee5c tr\u01b0\u1edbc c\u1ed5ng ch\u00f9a. H\u1eafn b\u1ea3o ph\u1ea3i h\u1ecfi \u00fd ki\u1ebfn s\u01b0 tr\u1ee5 tr\u00ec, r\u1ed3i \u0111i v\u00e0o ch\u00f9a. M\u1ed9t l\u00e1t sau tr\u1edf ra v\u1edbi nh\u00e0 s\u01b0 t\u00f4i g\u1eb7p l\u00fac s\u00e1ng. Nh\u00e0 s\u01b0 tr\u1ea3 l\u1eddi b\u1eb1ng ti\u1ebfng Vi\u1ec7t, m\u1ed9t ng\u01b0\u1eddi trong b\u1ecdn c\u00f4ng an d\u1ecbch ra ti\u1ebfng Anh, r\u1eb1ng H\u00f2a th\u01b0\u1ee3ng b\u1ecb b\u1ec7nh, ch\u00ednh v\u1ecb s\u01b0 tr\u1ee5 tr\u00ec c\u0169ng kh\u00f4ng \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c l\u00ean th\u0103m H\u00f2a th\u01b0\u1ee3ng, b\u00e1c s\u0129 c\u1ea5m m\u1ecdi cu\u1ed9c th\u0103m vi\u1ebfng. C\u00e2u tr\u1ea3 l\u1eddi ch\u00ednh th\u1ee9c nh\u01b0 th\u1ebf. T\u00f4i n\u00f3i l\u00ean nh\u1eadn \u0111\u1ecbnh kh\u00f4ng \u0111\u1ed3ng \u00fd c\u1ee7a t\u00f4i. R\u1ed3i t\u1ee9c th\u00ec, t\u00f4i gi\u01b0\u01a1ng t\u1ea5m bi\u1ec3n v\u1edbi c\u00e1c h\u00e0ng kh\u1ea9u hi\u1ec7u y\u00eau s\u00e1ch tr\u1ea3 t\u1ef1 do cho \u0110\u1ea1i l\u00e3o H\u00f2a th\u01b0\u1ee3ng Th\u00edch Huy\u1ec1n Quang, H\u00f2a th\u01b0\u1ee3ng Th\u00edch Qu\u1ea3ng \u0110\u1ed9 v\u00e0 t\u1ef1 do t\u00f4n gi\u00e1o cho Vi\u1ec7t Nam. Vi\u1ec7c x\u1ea9y ra c\u1ef1c k\u1ef3 nhanh. Martin Schulthes \u0111\u1ee9ng c\u00e1ch t\u00f4i kho\u1ea3ng 30 th\u01b0\u1edbc \u0111ang ch\u1ee5p h\u00ecnh. C\u00f4ng an ph\u00e1t hi\u1ec7n ngay Martin, \u0111\u1ed3ng l\u00fac ph\u00e1t hi\u1ec7n t\u1ea5m bi\u1ec3n kh\u1ea9u hi\u1ec7u t\u00f4i gi\u0103ng ra. M\u1ed9t s\u1ed1 c\u00f4ng an ti\u1ebfn nhanh v\u1ec1 ph\u00eda Martin, v\u00e0 m\u1ed9t c\u00f4ng an ch\u1ea1y qua \u0111u\u1eddng v\u1ec1 ph\u00eda t\u00f4i, nh\u01b0ng b\u1ecb d\u00f2ng xe c\u1ed9 vun v\u00fat c\u1ea3n tr\u1edf ph\u1ea7n n\u00e0o. Nh\u01b0ng b\u1ed7ng nhi\u00ean d\u00f2ng xe c\u1ed9 n\u00e0y ch\u1ea1y ch\u1eadm l\u1ea1i, h\u1ecd nh\u00ecn \u0111\u1ecdc t\u1ea5m bi\u1ec3n kh\u1ea9u hi\u1ec7u c\u1ee7a t\u00f4i tr\u01b0\u1edbc khi v\u1eb7n m\u00e1y \u0111i ti\u1ebfp. C\u00f4ng an ra l\u1ec7nh cho h\u1ecd ch\u1ea1y nhanh l\u00ean, nh\u01b0ng h\u1ecd v\u1eabn c\u1ee9 ch\u1ea7n ch\u1edd \u0111\u1ecdc bi\u1ec3u ng\u1eef. T\u00f4i ngh\u0129 \u0111\u00e3 c\u00f3 nhi\u1ec1u tr\u0103m ng\u01b0\u1eddi \u0111\u1ecdc c\u00e1c y\u00eau s\u00e1ch t\u00f4i ghi tr\u00ean t\u1ea5m bi\u1ec3n. Cu\u1ed1i c\u00f9ng t\u00ean c\u00f4ng an len \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c qua \u0111\u01b0\u1eddng, ch\u1ea1y \u0111\u1ebfn gi\u1eadt t\u1ea5m bi\u1ec3u ng\u1eef c\u1ee7a t\u00f4i. R\u1ed3i y\u00eau c\u1ea7u c\u1ea3 hai ch\u00fang t\u00f4i theo c\u00f4ng an v\u1ec1 \u0111\u1ed3n c\u1ee7a qu\u1eadn c\u00e1ch ch\u00f9a ch\u1eebng 500 thu\u1edbc. Cu\u1ed9c th\u1ea9m v\u1ea5n b\u1eaft \u0111\u1ea7u.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u1ef6 Lan:\u00a0 <em>Anh \u1edf \u0111\u1ed3n c\u00f4ng an bao nhi\u00eau l\u00e2u ? Nh\u1eefng c\u00e2u h\u1ecfi g\u00ec \u0111\u00e3 \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c \u0111\u1eb7t ra ? Anh c\u00f3 b\u1ecb t\u1ecbch thu g\u00ec kh\u00f4ng ?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Olivier\nDupuis <\/strong><strong>:&nbsp; <\/strong>Cu\u1ed9c th\u1ea9m v\u1ea5n k\u00e9o d\u00e0i 5 gi\u1edd \u0111\u1ed3ng h\u1ed3. R\u1ea5t nhi\u1ec1u\nc\u00e2u h\u1ecfi. \u0110\u1ea7u ti\u00ean m\u1ed9t vi\u00ean ch\u1ee9c th\u1ea9m v\u1ea5n. T\u00f4i kh\u00f4ng bi\u1ebft r\u00f5 c\u00e1ch \u0111i\u1ec1u h\u00e0nh c\u1ee7a\nC\u00f4ng an nh\u00e0 nu\u1edbc, nh\u01b0ng nh\u00ecn b\u1ed9 t\u1ecbch ng\u01b0\u1eddi th\u1ea9m v\u1ea5n t\u00f4i ch\u1eafc kh\u00f4ng ph\u1ea3i l\u00e0 \u00f4ng\nc\u00f2 \u0111\u1ecba ph\u01b0\u01a1ng. Ph\u1ea3i l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t s\u0129 quan c\u00f4ng an \u0111\u1ecba phu\u01a1ng.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u1ef6\nLan<\/strong><strong> :&nbsp; <em>H\u1ecd n\u00f3i ti\u1ebfng g\u00ec v\u1edbi anh ?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Olivier\nDupuis <\/strong><strong>:&nbsp; <\/strong>H\u1ecd n\u00f3i ti\u1ebfng Anh kh\u00e1 tr\u00f4i ch\u1ea3y. Th\u00e1i \u0111\u1ed9 c\u0169ng\nr\u1ea5t nh\u00e3 nh\u1eb7n. Vi\u00ean ch\u1ee9c n\u00e0y c\u00f9ng m\u1ed9t s\u1ed1 ng\u01b0\u1eddi kh\u00e1c thu\u1ed9c c\u00f9ng c\u01a1 quan th\u1ea9m v\u1ea5n\nt\u00f4i l\u1ea7n \u0111\u1ea7u. T\u00f4i b\u1ecb bao quanh r\u1ea5t \u0111\u00f4ng ng\u01b0\u1eddi, nh\u01b0ng&#8230; D\u0129 nhi\u00ean r\u1ea5t nhi\u1ec1u ng\u01b0\u1eddi\nqua l\u1ea1i trong \u0111\u1ed3n, nhi\u1ec1u c\u00f4ng an, c\u1ea3nh s\u00e1t l\u00e0m vi\u1ec7c t\u1ea1i \u0111\u00e2y. Nh\u1eefng c\u1ea3nh s\u00e1t\ntrong qu\u1eadn kh\u00f4ng tham gia cu\u1ed9c th\u1ea9m v\u1ea5n n\u00e0y. M\u1ed9t l\u00e1t sau, ba nh\u00e2n vi\u00ean thu\u1ed9c s\u1edf\ndi tr\u00fa \u0111\u1ebfn th\u1ea9m v\u1ea5n. M\u1ecdi s\u1ef1 b\u1eaft \u0111\u1ea7u tr\u1edf l\u1ea1i. M\u1ea5t th\u00ec gi\u1edd kh\u00e1 l\u00e2u. Nh\u01b0ng c\u0169ng\nnh\u00e3 nh\u1eb7n. C\u00f3 m\u1ed9t b\u00e0 s\u0129 quan n\u00f3i r\u1ea5t gi\u1ecfi ti\u1ebfng Ph\u00e1p, m\u1ed9t s\u0129 quan n\u00f3i ti\u1ebfng Anh\ngi\u1ecfi. C\u1ea3 hai \u0111\u1ec1u th\u00e2n m\u1eadt. R\u1ea5t ch\u00ednh x\u00e1c trong c\u00e2u h\u1ecfi nh\u01b0ng th\u00e2n m\u1eadt. Kh\u00f4ng\nch\u00fat th\u00f4 l\u1ed7, ngay c\u1ea3&#8230; kh\u00f4ng la l\u1ed1i, kh\u00f4ng m\u1ec7nh l\u1ec7nh t\u00e0n nh\u1eabn. T\u1ea5t c\u1ea3 x\u1ea9y ra\n\u0111\u1ee9ng \u0111\u1eafn.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>M\u1ecdi s\u1ef1 cho th\u1ea5y c\u00f2n ph\u1ea3i ti\u1ebfp di\u1ec5n v\u00e0o ng\u00e0y\nmai. Kho\u1ea3ng 6, 7 gi\u1edd t\u1ed1i, gi\u1edd Saigon, d\u01b0\u1eddng nh\u01b0 ng\u01b0\u1eddi ta s\u1eafp s\u1eeda th\u1ea3 ch\u00fang t\u00f4i\nv\u1ec1 kh\u00e1ch s\u1ea1n v\u00e0 b\u1eaft ph\u1ea3i tr\u1edf l\u1ea1i \u201cl\u00e0m vi\u1ec7c\u201d v\u00e0o s\u00e1ng mai. Nh\u01b0ng \u0111\u1ebfn ch\u1eebng \u0111\u00e2u 7\ngi\u1edd t\u1ed1i, m\u1ed9t nh\u00e2n v\u1eadt quan tr\u1ecdng&nbsp; &#8211; t\u00f4i\n\u0111o\u00e1n th\u1ebf ch\u1ee9 kh\u00f4ng th\u1ea5y \u0111eo lon hay ghi danh ch\u1ee9c v\u1ee5 &#8211;&nbsp; hi\u1ec7n ra, v\u00e0 th\u1ebf l\u00e0 cu\u1ed9c th\u1ea9m v\u1ea5n th\u1ee9 ba b\u1eaft\n\u0111\u1ea7u. L\u1ea7n n\u00e0y, hai ch\u00fang t\u00f4i b\u1ecb chia ri\u00eang. Trong l\u1ea7n th\u1ee9 nh\u1ea5t v\u00e0 th\u1ee9 hai, ch\u00fang\nt\u00f4i bu\u1ed9c ph\u1ea3i xu\u1ea5t tr\u00ecnh m\u1ecdi v\u1eadt li\u1ec7u trong x\u00e1ch tay c\u1ee7a ch\u00fang t\u00f4i. H\u1ecd c\u0169ng h\u1ecfi\nch\u00fang t\u00f4i ai vi\u1ebft nh\u1eefng bi\u1ec3u ng\u1eef n\u00e0y&#8230; h\u00ecnh nh\u01b0 kh\u00f4ng m\u1ea5y l\u1ed7i tr\u1eadt trong ch\u1eef\nVi\u1ec7t. T\u00f4i n\u00f3i v\u1edbi h\u1ecd \u201ckh\u00f4ng, kh\u00f4ng ai c\u1ea3\u201d, ch\u1eef vi\u1ebft c\u1ee7a t\u00f4i \u0111\u1ea5y. T\u00f4i n\u00f3i r\u1eb1ng nh\u1eefng\nng\u01b0\u1eddi b\u1ea1n gi\u00fap t\u00f4i d\u1ecbch ra ch\u1eef Vi\u1ec7t, nh\u01b0ng nh\u1eefng ng\u01b0\u1eddi n\u00e0y kh\u00f4ng \u1edf Vi\u1ec7t Nam,\nch\u00fang t\u00f4i nh\u1edd d\u1ecbch qua \u0111i\u1ec7n tho\u1ea1i, r\u1ed3i ch\u00ednh tay t\u00f4i vi\u1ebft ra c\u00e1c kh\u1ea9u hi\u1ec7u. \u01afu\nt\u01b0 h\u1ecd mu\u1ed1n bi\u1ebft ch\u00fang t\u00f4i \u0111\u00e3 g\u1eb7p nh\u1eefng ng\u01b0\u1eddi Vi\u1ec7t n\u00e0o trong th\u1eddi kho\u1ea3ng v\u00e0i gi\u1edd\ntru\u1edbc khi t\u00f4i bi\u1ec3u t\u00ecnh. T\u00f4i ngh\u0129 h\u1ecd hi\u1ec3u r\u1ea5t nhanh l\u00e0 ch\u1eb3ng c\u00f3 ai c\u1ea3.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>T\u00f4i tr\u1edf l\u1ea1i chuy\u1ec7n th\u1ea9m v\u1ea5n l\u1ea7n th\u1ee9 ba, l\u1ea7n n\u00e0y\nch\u00fang t\u00f4i b\u1ecb th\u1ea9m v\u1ea5n ri\u00eang bi\u1ec7t. M\u1ed9t l\u00fac n\u00e0o \u0111\u00f3, c\u00f4ng an ch\u1eb3ng ph\u1ea3i l\u00e0 nh\u1eefng\ntay m\u01a1, r\u1ea5t r\u00e0nh r\u1ebd nghi\u1ec7p v\u1ee5, h\u1ecfi t\u00f4i c\u00f3 qu\u00ean g\u00ec trong t\u00fai kh\u00f4ng. B\u1edfi v\u00ec trong\nb\u1ecdn ch\u00fang th\u1ea5y Martin Schulthes trao cho t\u00f4i g\u00ec \u0111\u00f3 khi ch\u00fang t\u00f4i b\u1ecb b\u1eaft. T\u00f4i\n\u0111\u00e0nh ph\u1ea3i \u0111\u01b0a cho ch\u00fang \u0111\u0129a ch\u1ee5p h\u00ecnh khi t\u00f4i t\u1ecda kh\u00e1ng bi\u1ec3u t\u00ecnh. Nh\u1eefng k\u1ebb\nth\u1ea9m v\u1ea5n coi b\u1ed9 r\u1ea5t s\u1eafc c\u1ea1nh, nh\u1ea5t l\u00e0 kh\u00eda c\u1ea1nh \u0111\u1ed9ng c\u01a1 bi\u1ec3u t\u00ecnh c\u1ee7a t\u00f4i. H\u1ecd\nn\u00f3i \u0111i n\u00f3i l\u1ea1i r\u1eb1ng h\u00e0nh \u0111\u1ed9ng c\u1ee7a ch\u00fang t\u00f4i b\u1ea5t h\u1ee3p ph\u00e1p, v\u00ec ch\u00fang t\u00f4i xin\nchi\u1ebfu kh\u00e1n \u0111i du l\u1ecbch, ch\u00fang t\u00f4i kh\u00f4ng ghi m\u1ee5c \u0111\u00edch \u0111\u1ebfn Vi\u1ec7t Nam. C\u00e1c b\u1ea1n d\u01b0 bi\u1ebft\nt\u00f4i \u0111\u00e3 tr\u1ea3 l\u1eddi ra sao. <strong>T\u00f4i n\u00f3i v\u1edbi h\u1ecd\nr\u1eb1ng \u0111i\u1ec1u b\u1ea5t h\u1ee3p ph\u00e1p \u1edf \u0111\u00e2y l\u00e0 giam gi\u1eef m\u1ed9t \u0110\u1ea1i l\u00e3o H\u00f2a th\u01b0\u1ee3ng, trong khi H\u00f2a\nth\u01b0\u1ee3ng \u0111\u00e3 h\u1ebft h\u1ea1n qu\u1ea3n ch\u1ebf t\u1eeb ba n\u0103m qua ; \u0111i\u1ec1u b\u1ea5t h\u1ee3p ph\u00e1p \u1edf \u0111\u00e2y l\u00e0 ra l\u1ec7nh\nqu\u1ea3n ch\u1ebf h\u00e0nh ch\u00ednh v\u00e0 giam gi\u1eef H\u00f2a th\u01b0\u1ee3ng Qu\u1ea3ng \u0110\u1ed9 ngo\u00e0i m\u1ecdi th\u1ee7 t\u1ee5c ph\u00e1p l\u00fd,\nv\u00e2n v\u00e2n.<\/strong> T\u1eeb \u0111\u00f3 n\u1ed5 ra m\u1ed9t cu\u1ed9c tranh c\u00e3i, h\u1eb3n nhi\u00ean qua \u0111\u00f3 c\u00f4ng an gi\u1eef v\u1eefng\nl\u1eadp tru\u1eddng c\u1ee7a h\u1ecd, ch\u00fang t\u00f4i ki\u00ean cu\u1eddng gi\u1eef v\u1eefng l\u1eadp tru\u1eddng c\u1ee7a ch\u00fang t\u00f4i. N\u00f3i\ncho c\u00f9ng, d\u00f9 sao c\u0169ng \u0111\u00e3 c\u00f3 m\u1ed9t s\u1ed1 trao \u0111\u1ed5i, tr\u00ean m\u1ed9t gi\u1ecdng \u0111i\u1ec7u l\u1ecbch s\u1ef1.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u1ef6\nLan<\/strong><strong> :&nbsp; <em>C\u00f4ng an c\u00f3 nh\u1eafc g\u00ec \u0111\u1ebfn anh V\u00f5 V\u0103n \u00c1i hay m\u1ed9t\nt\u00ean tu\u1ed5i n\u00e0o kh\u00e1c ?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Olivier\nDupuis <\/strong><strong>:&nbsp; <\/strong>H\u1ecd h\u1ecfi ch\u00fang t\u00f4i li\u00ean l\u1ea1c v\u1edbi nh\u1eefng ng\u01b0\u1eddi Vi\u1ec7t\nNam n\u00e0o \u1edf \u00c2u ch\u00e2u, M\u1ef9 ch\u00e2u, ho\u1eb7c v\u1edbi nh\u1eefng t\u1ed5 ch\u1ee9c Nh\u00e2n quy\u1ec1n, v.v&#8230; Ch\u00fang t\u00f4i\n\u0111\u00e1p l\u00e0 tin t\u1ee9c ch\u00fang t\u00f4i l\u1ea5y tr\u00ean Internet, qua Internet ng\u01b0\u1eddi ta c\u00f3 th\u1ec3 nh\u1eadn\n\u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c \u0111\u1ee7 th\u1ee9. T\u00f4i ngh\u0129 h\u1ecd d\u01b0 bi\u1ebft l\u00e0 ch\u00fang t\u00f4i ch\u1eb3ng ch\u1ecbu khai b\u00e1o ra m\u1ed9t t\u00ean\ntu\u1ed5i n\u00e0o c\u1ea3.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u1ef6\nLan<\/strong><strong> :&nbsp; <em>Nh\u01b0ng h\u1ecd kh\u00f4ng \u0111\u01b0a ra m\u1ed9t t\u00ean n\u00e0o ?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Olivier\nDupuis<\/strong><strong> :&nbsp; <\/strong>Kh\u00f4ng, h\u1ecd kh\u00f4ng nh\u1eafc t\u00ean ai c\u1ea3. Tuy nhi\u00ean h\u1ecd \u0111\u00e3\nl\u1ea5y m\u1ecdi s\u1ed1 \u0111i\u1ec7n th\u1ecdai trong \u0111i\u1ec7n th\u1ecdai c\u1ea7m tay c\u1ee7a t\u00f4i, trong \u1ed5 nh\u1edb c\u1ee7a \u0111i\u1ec7n\ntho\u1ea1i c\u1ea7m tay, m\u1ecdi cu\u1ed9c \u0111i\u1ec7n \u0111\u00e0m. Th\u1ebf l\u00e0 h\u1ecd bi\u1ebft ngay \u0111\u00e3 c\u00f3 m\u1ed9t cu\u1ed9c \u0111i\u1ec7n \u0111\u00e0m\nv\u1edbi Paris, l\u00e0 cu\u1ed9c \u0111i\u1ec7n \u0111\u00e0m c\u00f3 t\u00ednh quy\u1ebft \u0111\u1ecbnh. V\u00ec t\u1eeb cu\u1ed9c \u0111i\u1ec7n \u0111\u00e0m \u1ea5y m\u00e0 nh\u1eefng\nkh\u1ea9u hi\u1ec7u vi\u1ebft l\u00ean bi\u1ec3u ng\u1eef \u0111\u00e3 \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c khai sinh.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u1ef6\nLan<\/strong><strong> :&nbsp; <em>R\u1ed3i sau \u0111\u00f3, h\u1ecd quy\u1ebft \u0111\u1ecbnh tr\u1ee5c xu\u1ea5t anh ph\u1ea3i\nkh\u00f4ng ? Cu\u1ed9c tr\u1ee5c xu\u1ea5t x\u1ea9y ra nh\u01b0 th\u1ebf n\u00e0o ?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Olivier\nDupuis <\/strong><strong>:&nbsp; <\/strong>\u00c0, t\u00f4i ph\u1ea3i k\u1ec3 cho ch\u1ecb nghe m\u1ed9t chuy\u1ec7n kh\u00e1 ti\u00eau\nbi\u1ec3u tru\u1edbc \u0111\u00f3. Khi c\u00e1c th\u1ee7 t\u1ee5c ti\u1ebfn h\u00e0nh nhanh g\u1ea5p, h\u1ecd b\u00e1o l\u1ec7nh tr\u1ee5c xu\u1ea5t ch\u00fang\nt\u00f4i, v\u00e0 cho ph\u00e9p ch\u00fang t\u00f4i gh\u00e9 kh\u00e1ch s\u1ea1n l\u1ea5y h\u00e0nh l\u00fd c\u1ea5p t\u1ed1c. Ch\u00fang t\u00f4i theo\n\u0111o\u00e0n xe c\u00f3 \u0111\u00e8n ch\u1edbp v\u00e0 c\u00f2i h\u1ee5 xuy\u00ean qua Saigon. Th\u1eadt l\u00e0 \u0111i\u1ec1u th\u00fa v\u1ecb. V\u00e0 t\u1eeb\nkh\u00e1ch s\u1ea1n ra phi tru\u1eddng c\u0169ng di\u1ec5n ra nh\u01b0 th\u1ebf. Nh\u01b0ng tru\u1edbc khi \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c ra \u0111i \u201clong\ntr\u1ecdng\u201d c\u00e1ch \u0111\u00f3, ch\u00fang t\u00f4i ph\u1ea3i ng\u1ed3i nghe \u00f4ng Ch\u1ee7 t\u1ecbch \u1ee6y ban Nh\u00e2n d\u00e2n th\u00e0nh ph\u1ed1\nSai g\u00f2n \u201cgi\u1ea3ng \u0111\u1ea1o\u201d. \u00d4ng ta \u0103n m\u1eb7c r\u1ea5t M\u1ef9, \u0111\u1ea7u \u0111\u1ed9i m\u0169 l\u01b0\u1ee1i trai b\u00f3ng ch\u00e0y\n(baseball)&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u1ef6\nLan<\/strong><strong> :&nbsp; <em>Anh nh\u1edb t\u00ean \u00f4ng ta kh\u00f4ng ?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Olivier\nDupuis<\/strong><strong> :&nbsp; <\/strong>Kh\u00f4ng bi\u1ebft. M\u1ed9t ng\u01b0\u1eddi c\u1ee1 s\u00e1u m\u01b0\u01a1i, \u00f4ng ta n\u00f3i\nr\u1eb1ng ch\u00fang t\u00f4i vi ph\u1ea1m lu\u1eadt ph\u00e1p Vi\u1ec7t Nam, \u00f4ng ta n\u00f3i \u1edf Vi\u1ec7t Nam t\u1ef1 do t\u00f4n gi\u00e1o\n\u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c m\u1ecdi lu\u1eadt ph\u00e1p, Hi\u1ebfn ph\u00e1p b\u1ea3o \u0111\u1ea3m, v\u00e2n v\u00e2n. \u0110\u00fang l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t cu\u1ed9c \u201cgi\u1ea3ng \u0111\u1ea1o\u201d.\nR\u1ed3i t\u00f4i c\u0169ng t\u1ef1 cho ph\u00e9p m\u00ecnh \u201cgi\u1ea3ng \u0111\u1ea1o\u201d l\u1ea1i \u00f4ng ta, ch\u1ee9 kh\u00f4ng th\u1ec3 \u0111\u1ed1i tho\u1ea1i\nv\u1edbi h\u1ea1ng ng\u01b0\u1eddi \u1ea5y. Trong khi \u201cl\u00e0m vi\u1ec7c\u201d v\u1edbi c\u00f4ng an \u0111\u00e3 c\u00f3 l\u00fac c\u00f3 trao \u0111\u1ed5i. \u00d4ng\nta l\u00e0 ng\u01b0\u1eddi ph\u00e1t ng\u00f4n c\u1ee7a nh\u00e0 c\u1ea7m quy\u1ec1n Vi\u1ec7t Nam, nh\u01b0ng t\u00f4i v\u1eabn c\u1ee9 n\u00f3i quan\n\u0111i\u1ec3m c\u1ee7a t\u00f4i nh\u01b0 t\u00f4i \u0111\u00e3 tr\u00ecnh b\u00e0y l\u00fac n\u00e3y. T\u00f4i n\u00f3i kh\u00f4ng th\u1ec3 n\u00e0o ch\u1ea5p nh\u1eadn l\u1ed1i\n\u0111\u00e1nh gi\u00e1 hi\u1ec7n c\u1ea3nh t\u1ea1i \u0111\u00e2y nh\u01b0 th\u1ebf, n\u01a1i t\u00f4i th\u1ea5y t\u1ef1 do t\u00f4n gi\u00e1o kh\u00f4ng \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c t\u00f4n\ntr\u1ecdng, v\u00e0 \u0111\u00f3 \u0111\u00e3 l\u00e0 l\u00fd do \u0111\u1ea9y t\u00f4i \u0111\u1ebfn Vi\u1ec7t Nam \u0111\u1ec3 bi\u1ec3u d\u01b0\u01a1ng (v\u1ec1 v\u1ea5n \u0111\u1ec1 \u0110\u1ea1i l\u00e3o\nH\u00f2a th\u01b0\u1ee3ng Huy\u1ec1n Quang, v\u1ea7n \u0111\u1ec1 giam c\u1ea7m H\u00f2a th\u01b0\u1ee3ng Qu\u1ea3ng \u0110\u1ed9), l\u00e0 nh\u1eefng y\u1ebfu t\u1ed1\nminh ch\u1ee9ng tr\u00e1i ng\u01b0\u1ee3c l\u1ea1i. Nh\u01b0ng c\u00e2u \u0111\u00e1p c\u1ee7a t\u00f4i ch\u1eb3ng kh\u00e1c chi l\u1eddi n\u00f3i c\u1ee7a \u00f4ng\nch\u0103n c\u1eebu v\u1edbi b\u00e0 ch\u0103n c\u1eebu (l\u1eddi n\u00f3i \u0111\u1ec3 ch\u1ea5m d\u1ee9t cu\u1ed9c c\u00e3i tay \u0111\u00f4i), ch\u1eb3ng c\u00f3 chi\ng\u1ecdi l\u00e0 \u0111\u1ed1i tho\u1ea1i. \u00d4ng ta n\u00f3i l\u00ean l\u1eadp tru\u1eddng ch\u00ednh th\u1ed1ng. Ch\u00fang t\u00f4i \u0111\u00e3 bi\u1ec3u\nt\u1ecf&#8230; t\u00f4i quy\u1ebft n\u00f3i l\u00ean nh\u1eefng nguy\u00ean do t\u00f4i \u0111\u1ebfn Vi\u1ec7t Nam.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u1ef6 Lan:\u00a0 <em>Th\u1eadt l\u00fd th\u00fa. V\u00e0 th\u1ebf l\u00e0 anh b\u1ecb tr\u1ee5c xu\u1ea5t, ng\u1ed3i trong xe c\u00f3 c\u00f2i h\u1ee5 v\u00e0 \u0111\u00e8n ch\u1edbp ra t\u1eadn s\u00e2n bay. R\u1ed3i sao n\u1eefa ?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Olivier\nDupuis <\/strong><strong>:&nbsp; <\/strong>Ch\u00fang t\u00f4i b\u1ecb b\u00f3 bu\u1ed9c nh\u01b0 th\u1ebf. Theo l\u1ebd, ch\u1ee7 nh\u1eadt\nt\u00f4i m\u1edbi v\u1ec1 b\u1eb1ng \u0111\u01b0\u1eddng bay Air France. Nay ch\u00fang t\u00f4i bu\u1ed9c ph\u1ea3i mua v\u00e9 kh\u00e1c c\u1ee7a\n\u0111\u01b0\u1eddng h\u00e0ng kh\u00f4ng Th\u00e1i. H\u1ecd nhanh ch\u00f3ng \u0111\u1ea9y ch\u00fang t\u00f4i l\u00ean m\u00e1y bay. D\u01b0\u1eddng nh\u01b0\nchuy\u1ebfn bay tr\u00ec ho\u00e3n t\u1eeb mu\u1eddi ph\u00fat \u0111\u1ec3 \u0111\u1ee3i 2 ng\u01b0\u1eddi kh\u00e1ch. Ch\u00fang t\u00f4i ph\u1ea3i b\u1ecf ti\u1ec1n\nt\u00fai mua v\u00e9. Nh\u1eefng nh\u00e2n vi\u00ean s\u1edf di tr\u00fa \u0111i k\u00e8 b\u00ean ch\u00fang t\u00f4i, tuy l\u1ecbch s\u1ef1 nh\u01b0ng\nv\u1ed9i v\u00e3, v\u1eeba ch\u1ea1y v\u1eeba l\u00e0m th\u1ee7 t\u1ee5c nhanh nh\u01b0 gi\u00f3 r\u1ed3i \u0111\u01b0a xe ra t\u1eadn c\u1ea7u thang m\u00e1y\nbay. Ch\u00fang t\u00f4i l\u00e0 2 ng\u01b0\u1eddi kh\u00e1ch cu\u1ed1i, th\u1ebb h\u1ed9 chi\u1ebfu b\u1ecb trao cho v\u1ecb ch\u1ec9 huy m\u00e1y\nbay gi\u1eef, m\u00e0 m\u1ed9t s\u0129 quan \u1edf phi tru\u1eddng Bangkok s\u1ebd ti\u1ebfp thu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u1ef6\nLan<\/strong><strong> :&nbsp; <em>\u1ee6a, th\u1ebf th\u00ec h\u1ecd t\u1ecbch thu th\u1ebb h\u1ed9 chi\u1ebfu c\u1ee7a c\u00e1c\nanh \u00e0 ?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Olivier\nDupuis <\/strong><strong>:&nbsp; <\/strong>\u0110\u00fang v\u1eady, th\u1ebb h\u1ed9 chi\u1ebfu v\u00e0 v\u00e9 m\u00e1y bay h\u1ecd gi\u1eef c\u1ea3,\n\u0111\u1ebfn Bangkok m\u1edbi thu h\u1ed3i. T\u00f4i ngh\u0129 r\u1eb1ng \u0111\u00f3 l\u00e0 th\u1ee7 t\u1ee5c s\u1eed d\u1ee5ng khi \u00e1p d\u1ee5ng l\u1ec7nh\ntr\u1ee5c xu\u1ea5t t\u1eeb qu\u1ed1c gia n\u00e0y sang qu\u1ed1c gia kh\u00e1c. Theo c\u00e1ch \u0111\u00f3, ph\u1ea7n n\u00e0o ch\u00fang t\u00f4i\nl\u00e0 k\u1ebb t\u1ed9i ph\u1ea1m.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u1ef6\nLan<\/strong><strong> : <\/strong>&nbsp;<strong><em>T\u1ed9i ph\u1ea1m ? Sao l\u1ea1i b\u1eaft ph\u1ea3i mua\nv\u00e9 m\u00e1y bay ! K\u1ef3 l\u1ea1 th\u1eadt !<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Olivier\nDupuis <\/strong><strong>:&nbsp; <\/strong>N\u00f3 t\u1eeba t\u1ef1a nh\u01b0 nh\u1eefng ng\u01b0\u1eddi Trung qu\u1ed1c ph\u1ea3i b\u1ecf\nti\u1ec1n mua vi\u00ean \u0111\u1ea1n cho th\u00e2n nh\u00e2n b\u1ecb t\u1eed h\u00ecnh. Chuy\u1ec7n ch\u00fang t\u00f4i kh\u00f4ng \u0111\u1ebfn n\u1ed7i kinh\nr\u1ee3n nh\u01b0 th\u1ebf, nh\u01b0ng&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u1ef6\nLan<\/strong><strong> :&nbsp; <em>T\u00f4i c\u0169ng ngh\u0129 nh\u01b0 v\u1eady&#8230; Th\u1ebf r\u1ed3i anh \u0111\u1ebfn\nBangkok. V\u1eady sau v\u1ee5 bi\u1ebfn n\u00e0y anh c\u00f3 t\u00ednh chuy\u1ec7n g\u00ec kh\u00e1c ? T\u1ea1i Bangkok, anh\ntuy\u00ean b\u1ed1 r\u1eb1ng anh v\u00e0 \u0110\u1ea3ng C\u1ea5p ti\u1ebfn Li\u00ean qu\u1ed1c gia s\u1ebd ti\u1ebfp t\u1ee5c cu\u1ed9c v\u1eadn \u0111\u1ed9ng cho\nhai H\u00f2a th\u01b0\u1ee3ng Ph\u1eadt gi\u00e1o c\u0169ng nh\u01b0 c\u00e1c phong tr\u00e0o \u0111\u1ea5u tranh cho nh\u00e2n quy\u1ec1n v\u00e0\nd\u00e2n ch\u1ee7 \u1edf Vi\u1ec7t Nam. \u0110\u00fang th\u1ebf kh\u00f4ng ?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Olivier\nDupuis <\/strong><strong>:&nbsp; <\/strong>Tuy\u1ec7t \u0111\u1ed1i \u0111\u00fang. Kh\u00f4ng mu\u1ed1n l\u00e0m kh\u00f3 kh\u0103n cho b\u1ea5t\nc\u1ee9 ai, nh\u01b0ng t\u00f4i, t\u00f4i ngh\u0129 r\u1eb1ng trong s\u1ed1 nh\u1eefng ng\u01b0\u1eddi \u0111\u00e3 g\u1eb7p, hi\u1ec3n nhi\u00ean ngo\u00e0i\nnhi\u1ec7m v\u1ee5 gi\u1eef g\u00ecn, ngo\u00e0i t\u00ednh c\u00e1ch ngh\u1ec1 nghi\u1ec7p c\u1ee7a h\u1ecd, ngay c\u1ea3 trong gi\u1edbi c\u00f4ng\nan, c\u00f3 m\u1ed9t \u0111i\u1ec1u ta g\u1eb7p \u1edf b\u1ea5t c\u1ee9 nu\u1edbc n\u00e0o ngay t\u1ea1i c\u00e1c nu\u1edbc d\u00e2n ch\u1ee7. \u0110\u00f3 l\u00e0 \u00fd\nth\u1ee9c v\u1ec1 th\u1ef1c c\u1ea3nh, m\u1ed9t \u00fd th\u1ee9c l\u00e0 th\u1ef1c tai Vi\u1ec7t Nam \u0111ang chuy\u1ec3n \u0111\u1ed5i, nh\u01b0ng l\u1ea1i\nthi\u1ebfu m\u1ed9t c\u00e1i g\u00ec \u0111\u00f3 khi\u1ebfn cho s\u1ef1 ph\u00e1t tri\u1ec3n kh\u00f4ng th\u1ec3 ti\u1ebfp t\u1ee5c nh\u01b0 th\u1ebf n\u1eefa, v\u00e0\nd\u00e2n ch\u1ee7 l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t nhu c\u1ea7u kh\u1ea9n thi\u1ebft. \u0110\u00e2y l\u00e0 \u0111i\u1ec1u ri\u00eang t\u00f4i c\u1ea3m nh\u1eadn \u0111u\u1ee3c, c\u00f3 m\u1ed9t\nc\u00e1i g\u00ec xa c\u00e1ch v\u1edbi ng\u00f4n ng\u1eef c\u1ee7a nh\u00e0 n\u01b0\u1edbc. Th\u1eadt kh\u00e1 bi ai su\u1ed1t cu\u1ed9c \u201cgi\u1ea3ng \u0111\u1ea1o\u201d\nc\u1ee7a \u00f4ng Ch\u1ee7 t\u1ecbch \u1ee6y ban Nh\u00e2n d\u00e2n th\u00e0nh ph\u1ed1 Saigon. R\u00f5 r\u00e0ng l\u1eddi \u00f4ng n\u00f3i l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t\nb\u00e0i di\u1ec5n v\u0103n d\u1ecdn s\u1eb5n, m\u1ed9t l\u1ec5 th\u1ee9c, r\u1ea5t h\u00ecnh th\u1ee9c. H\u1eb3n l\u00e0 c\u00e1 nh\u00e2n \u1ea5y v\u00ec \u0111\u00e3 lu\u1ed1ng\ntu\u1ed5i, tr\u1ea7m \u0111\u1eafm qu\u00e1 l\u00e2u trong kh\u00ed h\u1eadu n\u00e0y, t\u00f4i kh\u00f4ng d\u00e1m n\u00f3i t\u1edbi m\u1ee9c \u0111\u1ed9 n\u00e0o \u00f4ng\nta \u0111\u00e3 l\u00e0m theo nhi\u1ec7m v\u1ee5 hay theo m\u00e1y m\u00f3c. Ngay trong nh\u1eefng ng\u01b0\u1eddi tr\u1ebb h\u01a1n, k\u1ec3 c\u1ea3\ntrong gi\u1edbi c\u00f4ng an, t\u00f4i c\u1ea3m nh\u1eadn r\u00f5 r\u00e0ng&#8230; T\u00f4i ngh\u0129 l\u00e0 kh\u00f4ng c\u00f2n m\u1ed9t ni\u1ec1m tin\nn\u00e0o trong h\u1ecd. T\u00f4i kh\u00f4ng tin l\u00e0 h\u1ecd tham gia to\u00e0n th\u00e2n v\u00e0o cu\u1ed9c l\u1ec5 \u0111\u1ea1o \u0111ang \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c\nc\u00e1c l\u00e3nh t\u1ee5 ch\u00ednh tr\u1ecb c\u1ea5t l\u00ean. H\u1ecd c\u00f3 v\u1ebb \u0111\u00e0ng ho\u00e0ng h\u01a1n, nh\u01b0ng kh\u00f4ng ai nh\u1eadn ra\n\u0111i\u1ec1u \u0111\u00f3.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u1ef6\nLan<\/strong><strong> : <\/strong>&nbsp;<strong><em>Anh c\u00f3 d\u1ef1 \u00e1n g\u00ec trong t\u1ee9c th\u1eddi\nkh\u00f4ng ?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Olivier\nDupuis <\/strong><strong>:&nbsp; <\/strong>T\u00f4i suy ngh\u0129 v\u1ec1 nh\u1eefng \u0111i\u1ec1u ph\u1ea3i l\u00e0m. Nh\u01b0ng c\u0169ng\nc\u00f2n nh\u1eefng ng\u01b0\u1eddi kh\u00e1c, nh\u01b0 ch\u1ecb, nh\u01b0 \u00f4ng V\u00f5 V\u0103n \u00c1i \u0111ang ho\u1ea1t \u0111\u1ed9ng, l\u00e0 nh\u1eefng ng\u01b0\u1eddi\nc\u00f3 m\u1ed9t ki\u1ebfn th\u1ee9c m\u00e0 nh\u1eefng k\u1ebb k\u00e9m hi\u1ec3u bi\u1ebft nh\u01b0 ch\u00fang t\u00f4i kh\u00f4ng th\u1ec3 n\u00e0o so s\u00e1nh.\nNh\u01b0ng t\u00f4i ngh\u0129&#8230; ph\u1ea3n \u1ee9ng c\u1ee7a t\u00f4i l\u00e0 ch\u00fang ta ph\u1ea3i nh\u1ea5n m\u1ea1nh tr\u00ean hai tru\u1eddng\nh\u1ee3p c\u1ee5 th\u1ec3 c\u1ee7a \u0110\u1ea1i l\u00e3o H\u00f2a th\u01b0\u1ee3ng Huy\u1ec1n Quang v\u00e0 H\u00f2a th\u01b0\u1ee3ng Qu\u1ea3ng \u0110\u1ed9. D\u00f9 r\u1eb1ng\nQu\u1ed1c h\u1ed9i \u00c2u ch\u00e2u \u0111\u00e3 bi\u1ec3u t\u1ecf cho tru\u1eddng h\u1ee3p c\u1ee7a \u0110\u1ea1i l\u00e3o H\u00f2a th\u01b0\u1ee3ng v\u00e0 \u0111\u00f2i h\u1ecfi\ntr\u1ea3 t\u1ef1 do v\u00f4 \u0111i\u1ec1u ki\u1ec7n t\u1eeb nhi\u1ec1u th\u00e1ng qua, ch\u00fang ta c\u1ea7n ph\u1ea3i c\u1ee9ng r\u1eafn trong v\u1ee5\nn\u00e0y, kh\u00f4ng ri\u00eang \u0111\u1ed1i v\u1edbi Qu\u1ed1c h\u1ed9i \u00c2u ch\u00e2u, m\u00e0 t\u1ea1i \u1ee6y h\u1ed9i \u00c2u ch\u00e2u v\u00e0 H\u1ed9i \u0111\u1ed3ng \u00c2u\nch\u00e2u. \u0110\u00f3 l\u00e0 ch\u1ec9 n\u00f3i ri\u00eang tr\u01b0\u1eddng h\u1ee3p \u1edf \u00c2u ch\u00e2u, \u0111\u1ec3 \u0111em l\u1ea1i ph\u00e1p l\u00fd cho hai H\u00f2a\nth\u01b0\u1ee3ng. C\u00f3 ngh\u0129a l\u00e0 l\u00e0m sao cho l\u1ec7nh qu\u1ea3n ch\u1ebf tr\u1edf th\u00e0nh b\u1ea5t h\u1ee3p ph\u00e1p v\u00e0 t\u00ednh\nph\u00e1p l\u00fd b\u1ecb ph\u00e1 v\u1ee1, v\u00e0 \u0110\u1ea1i l\u00e3o H\u00f2a th\u01b0\u1ee3ng Huy\u1ec1n Quang kh\u00f4ng c\u00f2n l\u00fd do qu\u1ea3n th\u00fac,\nkh\u00f4ng c\u00f2n m\u1ed9t l\u00fd do ph\u00e1p l\u00fd n\u00e0o \u0111\u1ec3 c\u00f3 th\u1ec3 v\u1ec1 Saigon s\u1ed1ng cu\u1ed9c \u0111\u1eddi h\u1ee3p ph\u00e1p.\nNgo\u00e0i chuy\u1ec7n \u0111\u00f3, t\u00f4i c\u0169ng ngh\u0129 l\u00e0 qua h\u00e0nh \u0111\u1ed9ng cho hai tru\u1eddng h\u1ee3p n\u00e0y, ch\u00fang\nta ph\u1ea3i \u0111\u00f2i h\u1ecfi cho ch\u00f9a vi\u1ec7n v\u1eafng b\u00f3ng c\u00f4ng an \u0111\u1ec3 tr\u1edf th\u00e0nh n\u01a1i c\u01b0 ng\u1ee5 cho\nT\u0103ng s\u0129 v\u00e0 t\u00edn \u0111\u1ed3 \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c t\u1ef1 do sinh h\u1ecdat t\u00f4n gi\u00e1o. Theo t\u00f4i, \u0111\u00e2y l\u00e0 \u0111i\u1ec3m t\u1ea5n\nc\u00f4ng, c\u00f2n nhi\u1ec1u ph\u01b0\u01a1ng th\u1ee9c kh\u00e1c n\u1eefa, m\u00e0 ch\u00fang ta ph\u1ea3i suy ngh\u0129&nbsp; \u0111\u1ec3 t\u00ecm th\u00eam s\u00e1ng ki\u1ebfn. V\u00ec ch\u1ecb h\u1ecfi d\u1ef1 \u00e1n t\u1ee9c\nth\u1eddi, n\u00ean t\u00f4i ngh\u0129 ngay \u0111\u1ebfn chuy\u1ec7n c\u00f2n n\u00f3ng, l\u00e0 ph\u1ea3i b\u1ed3i th\u00eam b\u00faa tr\u00ean chi\u1ebfc\n\u0111inh v\u1eeba \u0111\u00f3ng, ph\u1ea3i thu \u0111\u1ea1t cho \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c c\u1eed \u0111\u1ed9ng c\u1ee5 th\u1ec3 \u0111\u1ec3 minh ch\u1ee9ng r\u1eb1ng ch\u00fang ta\nc\u00f3 th\u1ec3 l\u1eadt ng\u01b0\u1ee3c th\u1ebf c\u1edd. T\u00f4i ngh\u0129 r\u1eb1ng khuynh hu\u1edbng hi\u1ec7n nay \u0111ang l\u00e2m v\u00e0o t\u00ecnh\ntr\u1ea1ng ti\u00eau vong. C\u00f3 th\u1ec3 kh\u00f4ng qu\u00e1 r\u00f5, qu\u00e1 nhanh, nh\u01b0ng \u0111\u00e3 \u0111\u1eadm n\u00e9t, nh\u01b0 m\u1ed9t s\u1ef1\n\u0111\u00f3ng k\u00edn. Ch\u00fang ta ph\u1ea3i h\u00e0nh \u0111\u1ed9ng, ph\u1ea3i quy\u1ebft \u0111\u1ea5u \u0111\u1ec3 t\u1ea1o ra c\u00e1c t\u00edn hi\u1ec7u ng\u01b0\u1ee3c\nchi\u1ec1u.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u1ef6\nLan<\/strong><strong> :&nbsp; <em>C\u1ea3m \u01a1n anh Olivier Dupuis v\u1ec1 cu\u1ed9c ph\u1ecfng v\u1ea5n\nn\u00e0y sau hai ng\u00e0y c\u1ef1c nh\u1ecdc, nguy hi\u1ec3m nh\u01b0ng kh\u00f4ng hi\u1ebfm ph\u1ea7n ly k\u1ef3. Xin ch\u00fac anh\nngh\u1ec9 ng\u01a1i cho l\u1ea1i s\u1ee9c. Ph\u1ea7n t\u00f4i s\u1ebd c\u1ed1 g\u1eafng \u0111\u1ea1o \u0111\u1ea1t chuy\u1ec7n k\u1ec3 v\u00e0 l\u1eddi t\u00e2m s\u1ef1 tha\nthi\u1ebft c\u1ee7a anh \u0111\u1ebfn to\u00e0n th\u1ec3 \u0111\u1ed3ng b\u00e0o Vi\u1ec7t Nam trong v\u00e0 ngo\u00e0i n\u01b0\u1edbc.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Paris, 7.6.2001 (PTTPGQT) &#8211; V\u1eeba bu\u1edbc xu\u1ed1ng phi tr\u01b0\u1eddng Frankfurt (\u0110\u1ee9c) theo chuy\u1ebfn bay t\u1eeb Bangkok tr\u1edf l\u1ea1i B\u1ec9, anh Olivier Dupuis, D\u00e2n bi\u1ec3u Qu\u1ed1c h\u1ed9i \u00c2u ch\u00e2u, T\u1ed5ng b\u00ed th\u01b0 \u0110\u1ea3ng C\u1ea5p ti\u1ebfn Li\u00ean Qu\u1ed1c gia, li\u1ec1n g\u1ecdi \u0111i\u1ec7n tho\u1ea1i v\u1ec1 Paris b\u00e1o tin cho Ph\u00f2ng Th\u00f4ng tin Ph\u1eadt gi\u00e1o Qu\u1ed1c t\u1ebf v\u1ec1 chuy\u1ebfn &hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":434,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_bbp_topic_count":0,"_bbp_reply_count":0,"_bbp_total_topic_count":0,"_bbp_total_reply_count":0,"_bbp_voice_count":0,"_bbp_anonymous_reply_count":0,"_bbp_topic_count_hidden":0,"_bbp_reply_count_hidden":0,"_bbp_forum_subforum_count":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[69,102,103,114,370],"tags":[149,377,206],"class_list":["post-45689","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","","category-tai-lieu","category-thong-cao-bao-chi","category-tin-pttpgqt","category-tin-tuc","category-forb-vi","tag-ghpgvntn","tag-olivier-dupuis","tag-thich-quang-do"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/queme.org\/vi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/45689","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/queme.org\/vi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/queme.org\/vi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/queme.org\/vi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/434"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/queme.org\/vi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=45689"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/queme.org\/vi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/45689\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":57485,"href":"https:\/\/queme.org\/vi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/45689\/revisions\/57485"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/queme.org\/vi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=45689"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/queme.org\/vi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=45689"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/queme.org\/vi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=45689"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}